Episode #89: Why We Ditched ChatGPT for Claude – And the Use Cases That Blew Our Minds (Part 1)

[00:00:00] Ruth Poundwhite: I have been having the most exciting conversations behind the scenes lately with my mastermind about what Claude is capable of. So many of us have made the switch [00:00:10] from chat GPT to Claude and are honestly doing mind blowing things with it. So I thought to myself, why are we keeping this private? I invited some of my mastermind [00:00:20] buddies onto the podcast to talk about exactly what is going on and the exciting ways we are using Claude,

[00:00:26] Monica Froese: welcome to the Solve.

[00:00:27] Monica Froese: Full sales show where we talk [00:00:30] about believing in the value of your offers, getting them in front

[00:00:33] Ruth Poundwhite: of your right people, and selling more of what you do in your unique way.

[00:00:38] Monica Froese: Hi, and welcome back to the [00:00:40] Soulful Sales Show. So today I have a really exciting episode. For you. So like I said, in that little pre

[00:00:46] Ruth Poundwhite: intro, we have been having some juicy [00:00:50] conversations in our mastermind group about the ways we are using Claude.

[00:00:53] Ruth Poundwhite: We are all learning so much from each other. We are using Claude to do tasks for us on our computer [00:01:00] to sort out our files. We are creating websites with Claude. We are doing. All of the things. It is so, so powerful. A lot of us [00:01:10] have only recently made the switch from chat, GBT, so I wanted to bring this conversation to the podcast to give you some ideas of what you could be doing behind the scenes [00:01:20] and to talk a bit about how AI is evolving and changing.

[00:01:24] Ruth Poundwhite: Nobody can keep up with it, by the way. We can’t keep up with it. This is just for inspiration and [00:01:30] ideas on how you could use AI to take some of the work off your plate and specifically using Claude. So I just wanna give you a quick thing to be [00:01:40] mindful of as you are listening. Co-work is a pretty new feature that can actually do things on your computer.

[00:01:45] Ruth Poundwhite: I wanna remind you to be. Really careful when you are using anything [00:01:50] like that. So we’ve shared some use cases, but please do your own due diligence when it comes to giving AI access to your files, access to your apps, access to your computer, and [00:02:00] folders, because this is still really new, right? And none of us are tech experts, but we are playing with ways to make it work.

[00:02:06] Ruth Poundwhite: And let me tell you. Some of the things we talked about in this [00:02:10] discussion, we talk about the real differences between chat GBT and Claude and what finally got us to make the switch. So if you have been using chat GBT, this part is for you. If you haven’t been [00:02:20] using chat GBT, that is fine. You can dive straight into the section where we get into skills, which is one of Claude’s most powerful features and.

[00:02:28] Ruth Poundwhite: I think works in [00:02:30] such a better way for my brain than how I was working with chat GBT. We also talk about co-work, which is how Claude can actually do things for you behind the [00:02:40] scenes while you get on with other stuff. And we talk about some really, really exciting use cases from building sales pages in minutes to doing an SEO audit, [00:02:50] to creating graphics, to writing speaker notes for giving a talk that actually sound like you so many amazing ideas.

[00:02:57] Ruth Poundwhite: It is a lot, but in the best possible way. [00:03:00] So I hope that this will inspire you. Take what works for you. Run with it. Play with it. And leave the rest for another day. You don’t have to do it all when it comes to ai, but think of [00:03:10] something that would genuinely take some work off your plate and start with that.

[00:03:14] Ruth Poundwhite: Alright, let’s get into it. And my mastermind buddies are gonna all introduce themselves before we get into

[00:03:19] Monica Froese: [00:03:20] the main bulk of the discussion.

[00:03:21] Ruth Poundwhite: Hello everyone and thank you for being part of this chat on the podcast. Very excited to have this conversation publicly ’cause we’ve been talking about so much [00:03:30] good stuff behind the scenes.

[00:03:31] Ruth Poundwhite: So before we dive in, I just want everyone who is. Here to introduce yourself quickly, just so that everyone knows who they’re listening to. So if you can [00:03:40] just share a couple of sentences who you are, um, what you do and, and who you help. So let’s start with Monica.

[00:03:47] Monica Froese: Well first, thanks for having us, Ruth. I’m [00:03:50] excited for the conversation.

[00:03:51] Monica Froese: Uh, my name’s Monica froze and I run two different brands. Uh, one’s a B2B brand called Empowered Business, where I help, uh, content creators create [00:04:00] high converting digital products, of course, with the help of ai, hence why we’re here. And then redefining Mom is a, uh, B2C brand and I’m integrating a lot of AI type products [00:04:10] to help moms, um, leverage AI in like their daily lives.

[00:04:15] Ruth Poundwhite: Thank you very much. And next, oh, I’m just gonna pick you in the order. You are on my screen. So [00:04:20] next is Jody.

[00:04:21] Jodi Bourne: Oh. Um, I’m Jody Bourne and I, um, help vacation rental. Either owners or property managers get more [00:04:30] bookings and, um, market their properties proactively so they’re not depending on the, the OTA listing sites.

[00:04:36] Jodi Bourne: Um, and that’s what I do and I love it.

[00:04:39] Ruth Poundwhite: Great, [00:04:40] thanks. And next is Kate.

[00:04:42] Kate Kordsmeier: Hi everybody. I’m Kate Meyer. I help coaches, course creators, online business owners, grow without social [00:04:50] media and, uh, really without, like, I feel like my, my phrase lately has been like high profit, low maintenance businesses. So I implement [00:05:00] a lot of ai, um, into that as well, so that you don’t have to have a big team or be on all the time.

[00:05:06] Ruth Poundwhite: Love that. And finally, destiny,

[00:05:09] Destini Copp: [00:05:10] super excited to be here. My name is Destiny Copp, and I have two brands that I own and manage. One is Hobby School, which is my B2C brand, where we do online learning [00:05:20] virtual summits every single month in different types of hobbies. And then I have my B2B brand, which is the creator’s MBA, where I help digital product entrepreneurs [00:05:30] grow their business with consistent revenue using creator grow flywheel and ai.

[00:05:36] Ruth Poundwhite: Love it. You will have such amazing experience, and I am [00:05:40] just in case you don’t know, I’m Ruth Pound White and I support people to sell and market in their business. Without always being on, I work with a lot of lower [00:05:50] capacity and neurodivergent business owners to set up those structures behind the scenes.

[00:05:55] Ruth Poundwhite: Like, uh, we talk about on the Soulful Sales podcast all the time. [00:06:00] Alright, so let’s get started by talking about like, we have all been on a journey with Claude recently. Um, I know Claude has been around for a while, but for [00:06:10] me. It’s definitely been a recent shift, a desire to get away from chat g pt, but also really exciting new [00:06:20] stuff.

[00:06:20] Ruth Poundwhite: Coming out with Claude all the time, like literally between the time of recording this and publishing this, they will probably have come out with new features. It’s just [00:06:30] wild at the moment. I wanna start for anyone who is, um. It has been using chat GBT, and I know that won’t be everyone [00:06:40] listening, so don’t worry.

[00:06:41] Ruth Poundwhite: We’re not gonna talk that much about chat GBT, but for anyone who has been using chat, GBT wants to move to Claude for various reasons, a lot of highly [00:06:50] publicized re reasons, or the recent past. Let’s talk a bit about the differences we see in chat, GPT and [00:07:00] Claude. Does anyone wanna jump in just to give the basics?

[00:07:03] Kate Kordsmeier: I’m happy to share a couple of the things that stand out to me about some of the differences and I think obviously [00:07:10] there’s a lot of functionality that Claude has that chat GT doesn’t, which is obviously huge. Um, and I know we’re gonna talk about skills and co-work and [00:07:20] all of that kind of stuff, but I also just wanna say that.

[00:07:23] Kate Kordsmeier: Some of the things that I am loving so much more about Claude. Like I’ve always known Claude as a better writer. It sounds more human. [00:07:30] It’s less formulaic and robotic than chat GPT. So I had been using it, um, for any writing tasks for a long time, but I pretty much had everything else [00:07:40] on chat, GPT, and I knew that chat GPT was like sycophantic in its.

[00:07:46] Kate Kordsmeier: And it’s the way it talks to you and, and all AI kind of is, it [00:07:50] obviously is designed to be reassuring and I, but I didn’t realize how much fluff was in every response that chat GBT gave me and just [00:08:00] so much blowing smoke. And that’s the best question anybody could have ever asked about, you know? And um, and then they would have like paragraphs before they would just get to [00:08:10] answering the question or doing the thing that I wanted.

[00:08:12] Kate Kordsmeier: And so I’m actually loving. One of those differences with Claude is just like, oh my gosh. It just like gets to the [00:08:20] point and it’s still nice and it still, you know, fluffs me up a little bit, but it’s not so sycophantic.

[00:08:28] Ruth Poundwhite: Yeah. And one of the most [00:08:30] recent updates in chapter bt I noticed it was giving me kind of clickbaity style suggestions.

[00:08:35] Ruth Poundwhite: Uh, I mean, I still notice it ’cause I’m still using chat beauty as I move stuff [00:08:40] across. And I’m really noticing it so strongly, like at the end of every response it gives you, it’s like, oh, would you like a secret second suggestion that will [00:08:50] totally blow this first one out the water? I’m like, why did you not give that to me?

[00:08:53] Ruth Poundwhite: Perfect. It’s just clickbait. It’s giving like, it’s giving the worst of social media kind of vibes, [00:09:00] like keep you engaged with the platform, but it’s just like. It’s too much and I’m really glad to that that Claude is not like that.

[00:09:09] Monica Froese: Claude [00:09:10] also asks questions up front. I like that a lot because one of my frustrations with chat GBT, so I am, I’m the person that got into [00:09:20] AI via chat, GBTI decided I wanted to master one platform because the shiny object and I knew I just really had to get good at something and if I had to open 10 [00:09:30] different things, it just wasn’t gonna work.

[00:09:31] Monica Froese: I will say I like a lot more, pretty much for everything right now. One of the things that Claude does exceptionally well, and I would [00:09:40] struggle with this with chat. In general it, I would come to it with a marketing problem. I’d say, let’s just say I needed. Cashflow injection and chat had all the [00:09:50] history of my business.

[00:09:50] Monica Froese: It understood all my product lines, all the things I was doing. And every time its suggestions were outrageous. Like if it was that easy to make 30 grand chat, I [00:10:00] wouldn’t be asking you about this. Like it would suggest, like these ridiculous programs I could just spin up and like people were gonna pay me 10 grand for and problem solved.

[00:10:08] Monica Froese: And it was like, rah, rah. [00:10:10] And I would get so annoyed by it. I’m like, this is ridiculous. I could have thought about this myself. When I am working on a marketing campaign with Claude, it asks me so many questions [00:10:20] upfront that the response is actually legitimate and something I can execute on, and it gives me way better ideas.

[00:10:27] Monica Froese: So that’s what like a big differentiator that [00:10:30] I’ve noticed.

[00:10:31] Ruth Poundwhite: Yes, it has such a nifty little multiple choice question thing. It gives you such a lovely feeling every time I ask you those questions. And it, it is, it [00:10:40] is, uh, the, the answers it gives as a result are so much better. Um. Yeah. Anyone else wanna add to this?

[00:10:47] Ruth Poundwhite: Or like specific, ’cause I think also there’s a, there’s [00:10:50] a, what you said Monica, about like, I wanna go all in on one platform. Like I felt like that too and I felt like I didn’t need to move for a long time and like, what [00:11:00] got you over that? Hump And what did you learn when you did it? I,

[00:11:04] Destini Copp: I’ll kind of, I’ll jump in here ’cause I, I definitely, when I first started using ai, I, I had a [00:11:10] paid account on Clot and I had a paid account on Chat, GPT.

[00:11:13] Destini Copp: Um, and I, so I was using both for a long time. And then I think [00:11:20] one of the reasons why I really honed in on chat GBT were the ability to make the custom GPTs and train them and sell them. There’s a lot [00:11:30] of people. They got what, 180 million people right now on, uh, you know, the OpenAI Chat GBD platform. So there’s a big market there.

[00:11:38] Destini Copp: So I really kind of just [00:11:40] went all in on that. And just in the past few, you know, month or two when everything came up with Claude and then I realized, oh, it’s made a lot of [00:11:50] improvements since the last time I was really, really using it. I, I, I kind of went back to it and. My world has been blown. I mean really there’s been so many [00:12:00] game changers in kind of delving into it.

[00:12:02] Destini Copp: It has blown everything out of the water that I was doing previously on chat, [00:12:10] GBTI, I can’t, I can’t literally believe all the improvements just in the past month.

[00:12:14] Ruth Poundwhite: It is, it is amazing. And we are gonna share some of that stuff. So if you wanna like [00:12:20] stick around, we will talk about that. I will just add, um.

[00:12:23] Ruth Poundwhite: Custom the, the custom gpt and being able to share them publicly is definitely. A good, [00:12:30] great thing about chat GT and there’s no direct equivalent in Claude at the moment. I would love, like they are shipping new features like all the time, [00:12:40] so I’m really hoping that they come up with something that matches it.

[00:12:44] Ruth Poundwhite: They do have, so this is one of the things when you move over, you kind of need to get used to the terminology. So in chat [00:12:50] GBT you have, you have custom GPTs that you’ve trained on your knowledge and instructions and you can share that with other people so they can use your. Like specifically trained [00:13:00] chat version of chat GBT.

[00:13:03] Ruth Poundwhite: Um, and it’s really helpful for me ’cause I can train them with a password so I can share them with my members and I can change the password every month and that. [00:13:10] It doesn’t always work. It’s not foolproof, but it does work pretty well with Claude. You have projects that you can train, [00:13:20] um, have instructions and knowledge, so it’s really good if you’re working on your own stuff.

[00:13:24] Ruth Poundwhite: It kind of works like a custom GBT. You also have skills. Which are amazing and we’ll talk more about [00:13:30] skills. Um, and you can share skills with your clients, so you could sell them like custom GBTs, but the limitation is, as Destiny said, loads of people are using [00:13:40] chat GBT. So maybe they’ll find it easier just to chat on.

[00:13:44] Ruth Poundwhite: A custom GPT versus having to install a skill. Um, or like me, I have a [00:13:50] membership and I want that password like ingrained and I don’t just wanna give people the file that they then have forever. So there’s, so there’s some things that don’t translate, but a lot of [00:14:00] stuff does translate and then, like Destiny said, totally blows track GBT out of the water.

[00:14:06] Ruth Poundwhite: Um, so. I will say, [00:14:10] I guess for all of us, we would all agree like, I mean Destiny, you’ve been using both at the same time for a while. Like, I have only been using Claude for [00:14:20] like this, like we’re recording this at the end of March, probably only this month really, apart from like the odd chat here and there.

[00:14:27] Ruth Poundwhite: And it felt like a big thing, but I’m so [00:14:30] glad that I took the leave. Like would you all agree? Yeah. You’re all nodding your heads

[00:14:34] Jodi Bourne: definitely

[00:14:35] Destini Copp: 3%. Yeah. I, I think, um. Go ahead, Jovi.

[00:14:39] Jodi Bourne: I [00:14:40] was just gonna say, I’ve been using Claude almost exclusively for about a year now because I have a business where I have multiple clients and then I also have my [00:14:50] own business, and then I have my husband’s business and I just could not get chat.

[00:14:54] Jodi Bourne: GPT. To stop putting stuff about everybody else’s business into [00:15:00] my content. I could not, even with the memory, everything, I would have to clean out the memory every day. And so then, um, when I learned about Claude Projects [00:15:10] is when I jumped on board because of the. The kind of brain that’s just there, like you said, you can give it your instructions, you can give it your [00:15:20] information, and you can upload documents to it that stay consistent.

[00:15:23] Jodi Bourne: So that’s why I switched a year ago and um, I can’t. Like the last month [00:15:30] that some, a bunch of other people have started jumping on. I’ve just been, because I guess because now they’re jumping, they’re, they’re just building so fast. I mean, yesterday we had three [00:15:40] cowork updates. Did y’all notice that? That like three cowork updates in one day.

[00:15:44] Kate Kordsmeier: Yeah.

[00:15:45] Jodi Bourne: So

[00:15:46] Ruth Poundwhite: yeah, it’s a lot. And, and, and anyone listening to this, like we might be saying, think [00:15:50] you like skills, what projects, what, it’s a lot to keep track of, and. It’s a lot to even get used to using one AI [00:16:00] tool, let alone move to another one or use multiple. It’s a lot. It is a lot. And I, I guess I wanna say to anyone listening, like we are playing with this stuff a lot and working in [00:16:10] it a lot and we still can’t keep track of it.

[00:16:12] Ruth Poundwhite: No one can keep track of all this. And it’s actually quite helpful to, to remind everyone of that. No one can keep track of it all. And [00:16:20] I would also say, so like, Jody Destiny, you’ve already been using Claude for a while. Um. Okay, Monica. More recently, we, the ones of us who I’ve [00:16:30] seen moving over more recently, the way that we have gotten to know things is just by playing with it, playing with it, asking it, how can you help me do these things that I do regularly?

[00:16:39] Ruth Poundwhite: Or how can you, [00:16:40] like, how can I train you on this thing that maybe I’ve trained chat GBT on in the past or whatever. And that is how we are getting to know it. So I just wanna, if anyone’s listening to this and thinking [00:16:50] like, I kind of wanna move or I wanna try it, um. Just take it one step at a time and that’s the way to go next.

[00:16:57] Ruth Poundwhite: What I would love us all to share is things we are doing [00:17:00] in Claude, because this is gonna be the real thing that is gonna probably inspire you to jump in because the things we are all doing, like we are having calls with each other ’cause we’re in a [00:17:10] mastermind group together, the weird term, and we’re just.

[00:17:13] Ruth Poundwhite: Always we’re sharing so excitedly the new things that we’ve discovered we can do. And it’s just, it’s so much fun and [00:17:20] blowing our minds what it can do. So, does anyone wanna jump in with something really cool they’re doing with Claude?

[00:17:25] Destini Copp: So, uh, Ruth, I’m gonna jump in. I’m gonna tell a little bit of a story here ’cause I did [00:17:30] literally kind of stumble upon this by accident.

[00:17:32] Destini Copp: I was doing an audit for one of my members in the creator’s MBA lab, and she has a membership and I was trying to figure, help her figure out two [00:17:40] different, like angles we could take with it on the sales page. And I was working with Claude. I’m like, can you give me like two different angles here? And here’s what we’re trying to do and here, here are the issues [00:17:50] that we’re running into.

[00:17:51] Destini Copp: And it literally built out two different long form sales pages for me so I could see on side by side and, [00:18:00] uh, do the comparison. And I was, that’s when I just was like, okay. This is a game changer and it put it in HTML. [00:18:10] And so that kind of took me also on a different kind of, um, journey there. But when I showed her and just like showed her those two art artifacts where it could [00:18:20] kind of build out her two sales pages and the different, you know, different ways we could approach it, she was blown.

[00:18:25] Destini Copp: I was blown. And then I realized, okay. Clot is putting this in HTML, [00:18:30] and then a few days later, that’s when the Lead Pages company came out with the HTML pop and where you could just take that code and [00:18:40] publish those landing pages immediately. And then I realized, okay, I have this HTML, what else can it do?

[00:18:47] Destini Copp: And that’s, that’s when I was like, okay, I can [00:18:50] build like a skill blog post where it can just publish the HTML and I can put on my wear, uh, Squarespace site and then it can publish the [00:19:00] HTML and I can take content and actually put it into my emails where I would’ve used like an image image in the [00:19:10] past and make it easier to read.

[00:19:12] Destini Copp: Just that HTML and Claude publishing that HTML for us, that code there has made [00:19:20] my life so much easier and all of this has happened in just in the past few weeks.

[00:19:24] Ruth Poundwhite: Yeah, it’s amazing. So just to, for anyone listening who’s like, what, I don’t, I don’t get [00:19:30] it. Right. It was so funny because when you all, uh, you first were experimenting with this and you created these HL pages, I was like, explain this to me.

[00:19:37] Ruth Poundwhite: Like I’m five, what are you getting Claude to [00:19:40] do? You are like literally just. Creating the page, giving me the HTML code and I am just plugging that in to

[00:19:47] Kate Kordsmeier: meaning like the designed page, [00:19:50] right? Not like the design

[00:19:51] Ruth Poundwhite: page

[00:19:51] Kate Kordsmeier: PT was doing was giving us a Word doc kind of format and we’d copy paste it and still have to design everything.

[00:19:57] Kate Kordsmeier: Yes. Now the HTML, [00:20:00] that’s what I feel like the. Made me see like you have to see it kind of, because once you see it, build this thing in less than five minutes and it’s like a better sales page than [00:20:10] you could ever create. And it was something that we were all paying designers thousands of dollars over the years to do or doing it ourselves for spending [00:20:20] hours like the design of that.

[00:20:22] Kate Kordsmeier: The page is completely built from copy to design graphics. Your fonts, your branding, everything. That’s [00:20:30] when I think all of us were like, what is this witchcraft Like, this is amazing. What is this witchcraft? This is the perfect phrase.

[00:20:38] Monica Froese: I think at one, when it [00:20:40] really clicked the differences between like what a custom GPT could do versus a skill was I was, so I, I create a lot of custom gpt that [00:20:50] I sell in my shop and the way I deliver them is with this in instruction.

[00:20:55] Monica Froese: PDF, and it’s formatted the same way for every GPTI sell. And so I [00:21:00] was working with Claude on like one of the gpt I wanted to create. And I said, I took one of the other PDFs, I put it into Claude, and I said, oh, well I need instructions [00:21:10] laid out for this GPT, just like that. Now in chat GPT, what would happen is it would get, it would read the PDF and it would give me all that I needed, but then I had to copy and paste it and [00:21:20] format it over.

[00:21:20] Monica Froese: Like I could have gotten it exported into a doc. But it would not have looked like my brand. So as I’m doing this, Claude reads [00:21:30] the PDF and goes, oh, would you like me to create the PDF for you with your branding? And I said, well, yes, and it did. And then it said to [00:21:40] me, would you now like this to be a skill?

[00:21:42] Monica Froese: So every time you need to create. Specific document, it will do it exactly like this. And I thought, okay, well let’s [00:21:50] take this a step further. I’m constantly creating workbooks for my programs and my workshops, and they would take a long time for me to format. Sometimes I’d have to pay for people to format.

[00:21:58] Monica Froese: So now I have a skill [00:22:00] for each side of my business that has all the different logos built in, so it knows like which program I’m building it for. It has all the different footers I would want, like copyright, and I have [00:22:10] many different web. Sites, so like different privacy policies. It’s all built into the skill.

[00:22:14] Monica Froese: So I can say, Hey, I’m creating, creating a branded doc for this program, and this is the footer I need to use, [00:22:20] and here’s all the content. And it just takes it. And in a minute, I have, like yesterday I did a 30, I’m launching a workshop today. It’s a 30 [00:22:30] page branded doc that it spit out in like two minutes.

[00:22:33] Monica Froese: I, I just was like, this could not have happened with chat g bt.

[00:22:39] Jodi Bourne: And even if [00:22:40] like when chat GPT was putting things together like that, it was not ever quite there. Correct. There was al always something else you had to do or [00:22:50] add or tell it train, you know, retrain it on something. And with Claude it’s, I mean, it’s almost a hundred percent and then maybe it takes another three or four minutes [00:23:00] to just kind of say, Hey, could you do this?

[00:23:01] Jodi Bourne: Or maybe as you’re writing and looking at it yourself, a lot of things that I’m doing is. Like I, I am a website designer and I’ll go take [00:23:10] a screenshot of somebody else’s site, like a section that I like and say, Hey, can you design this part of my page like this? And it [00:23:20] just looks at the screenshot and it’s like, sure, Jody, let me do that for you real quick.

[00:23:23] Jodi Bourne: And then boom, there it is. And you know, how long would that take? I

[00:23:28] Kate Kordsmeier: know,

[00:23:28] Jodi Bourne: I mean, even in lead pages, [00:23:30] something that’s really easy to use, it would just take hours. To, to rebuild an entire section. Yeah. So that’s, yeah. It’s just, uh, it’s, we [00:23:40] just keep saying Blown away, blown away, blown away.

[00:23:42] Ruth Poundwhite: Yeah. Truly. And like design websites, all of that has never been my strong suit.

[00:23:48] Ruth Poundwhite: Like never been [00:23:50] the thing, like I’ve always kind of patched it together or used things like lead pages, although I canceled that ’cause they put the prices right up. Um, but even using those page builders. [00:24:00] Still very time consuming. Um, and you know what, you were all like having, like doing these pages and sharing in our group, [00:24:10] just when I had already created all the pages for my summit and I was like, man, this would’ve been perfect for a summit.

[00:24:16] Ruth Poundwhite: Just like give it a template and let it go and create [00:24:20] 50 different pages for the speakers. Like, absolutely amazing. And the key is in the skills, right? So skills is basically like. It saves to its memory [00:24:30] a set of instructions. Like it’s trained on, like, so in Monica’s example, you’ve been having a chat with it.

[00:24:37] Ruth Poundwhite: It then creates a skill from all the stuff it [00:24:40] learned in your chat and the, like, the little tweaks you gave it or like, oh no, that’s not the right color for my brand. Like this is, and, and creating a skill for like your design. I mean, so [00:24:50] I’ve just been doing this in my Claude I, um. I asked it to guide me through creating a visual skill, um, and what it would need from, and [00:25:00] it, and it gave me suggestions and it asked me to upload certain things.

[00:25:03] Ruth Poundwhite: I even couldn’t be bothered to find all the colors from my website and stuff, so I just uploaded the, the, i I, I went to like view [00:25:10] page source and just copied and pasted all the HTML from my website and it just got all the colors and everything from that. Um. And the difference is huge. Like, so once [00:25:20] you’ve, I mean it’s, this is what we’ve always been saying about AI in general.

[00:25:23] Ruth Poundwhite: We like, you’ve gotta train it. Um. This is another level and the results are amazing when you can [00:25:30] train it. Right. Although I love what you shared, Jody, as well, about taking screenshots of other websites, like that’s a really good tip.

[00:25:35] Kate Kordsmeier: Yeah. I think too, and I don’t think we talked about this yet, but [00:25:40] like what I love about skills is that you can.

[00:25:42] Kate Kordsmeier: Stack them inside the same conversation. So with chat GPT, they kind of said they released that feature [00:25:50] last year at some point and you would like at symbol and you, it never worked for me. Never worked. It was always super buggy. Um, and yeah, I had a lot of issues with that, but I [00:26:00] think the concept was smart and Claude figured out how to do it by using these skills.

[00:26:04] Kate Kordsmeier: So you can go in and I can say, all right. You know, I need to write an email [00:26:10] about blah blah blah. So I give it the prompt, it writes the email using the email copywriter skill, and then I say, turn it into a post. I can put in my school [00:26:20] community and I don’t wanna just like copy paste the exact email, right?

[00:26:23] Kate Kordsmeier: So then it’s gonna pull in the school post writer skill, and then I can say, now I wanna turn [00:26:30] this into a blog post. And it’s gonna pull in the GEO writer skill all in the same chat, so you’re not having to copy paste. Okay, here’s what I had from the email conversation. Now [00:26:40] let me move this to a new conversation to do this if you were using custom GPTs in the past, so I also feel like everything’s just happening.

[00:26:47] Kate Kordsmeier: So much faster and more seamlessly.

[00:26:49] Jodi Bourne: [00:26:50] And it also writes the skill for you. It updates it.

[00:26:52] Kate Kordsmeier: Yes.

[00:26:52] Jodi Bourne: So if you’re working in chat GPT, if you’re working on a custom chat, custom GPT, you have to go back in, you have to open [00:27:00] it up, you have to edit it, you have to find the spot where it needs to go. And then with, with this cla, it’s just like, oh, could we update that skill to now ask for this or to now do [00:27:10] this?

[00:27:10] Jodi Bourne: And it’s like, okay, skill updated, and that’s it. Yeah. 1:00 AM I. One of, I’m sorry, Monica, go ahead.

[00:27:16] Monica Froese: I was just gonna say, and you don’t even have to tell it to pull the skill it knows [00:27:20] to pull the skill. That’s the other thing. So yeah.

[00:27:23] Jodi Bourne: And it will, it will ask you if you want to use a skill like I, maybe you didn’t think about, oh yeah, I have that skill.

[00:27:28] Jodi Bourne: And it’ll say, do you want to use this [00:27:30] skill? Or it’ll just start using it like you said, and you’re like, oh yeah, I should should’ve thought of that myself.

[00:27:35] Kate Kordsmeier: I know you don’t have to think of all your different custom gpt that you’ve built. [00:27:40] Um, and I was gonna say, like, one of my favorite ways to build a skill, well, I have kind of two easy ways to build a skill.

[00:27:47] Kate Kordsmeier: Um, one is like, [00:27:50] do something for the first time, like we’ve just been talking about in the chat. So, for example, I write income reports every month, and I have to like, alright, first I gotta pull in all of my stats from the [00:28:00] month. Then I need to pull in some themes that came up. Then I need to, you know, it’s like multiple steps, right?

[00:28:05] Kate Kordsmeier: Then I need to create the Canva graphic, then I need to do this thing. And so [00:28:10] I do it once. In one chat, and then I say, turn this into a re, turn this conversation into a repeatable skill. So now next time I go to write the income [00:28:20] report, it just basically says, okay Kate, I need this, this, and this from you.

[00:28:24] Kate Kordsmeier: And then it knows exactly how to format everything. It pulled in the necessary skills for different [00:28:30] aspects of that, like one of this. One of the skills I have is a p and l skill, and so it literally goes into my QuickBooks. It pulls my p and l from the month. It knows [00:28:40] how I calculate my profit and all of that.

[00:28:43] Kate Kordsmeier: And then, um. You know, it just allows you, sorry, my daughter just came in. I got distracted. [00:28:50] Um, anyway, so it’s like it pulls that skill when it needs it for that section. Then it pulls the blog writer skill when it needs it for that section. Then it pulls the Canva skill when it needs, and it’s doing all of this [00:29:00] for you.

[00:29:00] Kate Kordsmeier: And so it’s updating the Canva graphic, it’s doing everything. And I just had to have one conversation and now it knows. Exactly the [00:29:10] process moving forward. So that’s kinda my first use case. And then my second one is, I love saying like I have a lot of, we all have a lot of our own IP where we could [00:29:20] train Claude or chat GBT on our own transcripts and project files and everything.

[00:29:25] Kate Kordsmeier: But there’s some things where I’m like, I’m not a meta ads copywriting [00:29:30] expert. And so I will go and I’ll do like deep research, turn that tool on and Claude and say. Do deep research for me on [00:29:40] Andromeda and, um, best practices for ads, creative copy, graphics, whatever in 2026. It will, you know, [00:29:50] spend five minutes, 10 minutes, like doing its deep research.

[00:29:53] Kate Kordsmeier: Then it gives me a report about best practices, and I’m like, great, turn this into a skill. So now I just have this ad copywriter [00:30:00] skill that is trained on all the best practices, but I didn’t have to know what they were. It did the research for me and then told me. So I feel like those are two really easy ways [00:30:10] to create skills that you can use forever.

[00:30:14] Ruth Poundwhite: Yes. I love that. And one thing I will say also about skills is it really works with my brain. Like I [00:30:20] get overwhelmed. Trying to remember all the things. So like in that chat GBT feature where you can add in other custom GBTs, I just get [00:30:30] overwhelmed having it all my head and trying to remember the complex network of different things I can use altogether.

[00:30:36] Ruth Poundwhite: It just really works for my brain that Claude [00:30:40] will just suggest skills or run them or like, you know, I’m like. I need to create a workbook. And it, it is like, oh, let me pull in your visual design skill. Let me pull [00:30:50] in your voice skill. Let me pull in whatever. And she’s like, yes. I don’t have to think of it.

[00:30:54] Ruth Poundwhite: Like it’s, it seems really simple, but it, it just, something about it just works so much better for my [00:31:00] brain, which easily gets overwhelmed. Um, so let’s also talk, so what we’ve been talking about is like designing things or, you know, a process for [00:31:10] creating blog posts. Um. That stuff is happening in the chat, right?

[00:31:16] Ruth Poundwhite: Most of the, the stuff that we’ve been talking about happening in the chat, [00:31:20] Claude also has a wild feature called Cowork, which I think has blown everyone’s minds who has used it. It is a different [00:31:30] tab when you’re using Claude in the desktop, so you can chat or you can go to cowork and Coworks more like you can still chat with it.

[00:31:38] Ruth Poundwhite: But it’s more like doing things [00:31:40] for you in your browser or now. Uh, like it, apparently you can use your apps on your computer as well, which is a very recent update. So one of the first things I did when I [00:31:50] tested it was just, can you, and this was before I realized that you can actually directly, so some things you can directly connect, um, like, and it will do it behind the [00:32:00] scenes, so it won’t need to do it in your browser or in an app.

[00:32:02] Ruth Poundwhite: I didn’t realize it had a Canva connection, so I got it to do it in the browser, so I got it to just go on my Canva account. I had just logged in on a tab in Chrome [00:32:10] and I was like, I need to update a bunch of images. There was a specific thing that I needed to update throughout, like probably like 30 different images, and it just did it and I was just [00:32:20] watching it.

[00:32:20] Ruth Poundwhite: I could have literally worked on something else while it was doing it, but it was just so fascinating. To watch it doing it in my browser and I was like, oh my goodness, what is going on? So that was like one of the [00:32:30] first things I tried with it. What is everyone using cowork for?

[00:32:35] Jodi Bourne: Everything.

[00:32:39] Monica Froese: I

[00:32:39] Destini Copp: feel [00:32:40] like, tell us more, Jody.

[00:32:42] Jodi Bourne: Do what

[00:32:42] Destini Copp: I said. Tell us more. I wanna know.

[00:32:45] Jodi Bourne: Well, I mean, just everything, you know, when you, when I first downloaded it, um, a while [00:32:50] back, first of all I downloaded it and I don’t know if it was my Mac or whatever, but it didn’t work for a few days. I think I actually literally cried.

[00:32:57] Jodi Bourne: When it wouldn’t work for me and I [00:33:00] was reading all these things that people were doing. Um, so it’s organized all of my files, not just in my, on my desktop, but it has access to my Google Drive. [00:33:10] It’s found tons and tons of duplicate images and content and updates. It’s organized them, it’s renamed things so that [00:33:20] it’s easier for me to find it’s tagged things.

[00:33:23] Jodi Bourne: Um, one of them. One of the best things I think about cowork is the connectors. They have so many connectors. You can [00:33:30] add your own connectors if you’re a little bit more tech technical. Uh, but when it will connect your Gmail to your notion, to your this [00:33:40] and you know, to your Google drive and it’s all there.

[00:33:43] Jodi Bourne: So the skills that you’re using now include these connectors. So, you know, maybe [00:33:50] like a skill I do some, uh, some SEO. So this is, this blew my mind yesterday. I do it. I was doing some SEO work for a client. I had it go in the [00:34:00] browser, like you said, Ruth in the browser. Go to the client’s website. It found the site map.

[00:34:08] Jodi Bourne: It went to every page in [00:34:10] the site map. Gave me a spreadsheet of H one tags, H two tags, alt tags, keywords used on the page. Then told [00:34:20] me what I needed to do to improve it. It did keyword research for me for that brand came back and said, well, you’re not using these keywords at all [00:34:30] in your, in the website and you know, these might be better.

[00:34:33] Jodi Bourne: And then it tells you, but you, you might need to do some of your own keyword research because it depends on what you’re, you know, [00:34:40] they’re wanting on this page and this page. But then it spit out this beautiful branded document that I could give to my client and say, here’s the SEO research I [00:34:50] did. Next step is, do you want me to, to do it for you?

[00:34:53] Jodi Bourne: And then I know when I do it. I mean, I already have already created the skills for how to update blogs and web [00:35:00] webpages with, with the new SEO content. And it’s, I mean, it’s just instant and it’s great.

[00:35:06] Ruth Poundwhite: Yeah. That’s hours and hours of work, right?

[00:35:08] Jodi Bourne: That’s, that was, [00:35:10] that’s probably a 10 hour project. I mean, she had a 60 page website.

[00:35:15] Monica Froese: I, I think the biggest thing that clicked for me with Claude that I never [00:35:20] could quite get to with chat GBT, was how to work agently. So essentially the AI is doing the work for you, and it’s not just a, you’re guiding it [00:35:30] along and you’re in the active chat. And that’s what cowork finally clicked for me.

[00:35:34] Monica Froese: So now I’m, I try to challenge myself now when I have to accomplish something. What [00:35:40] is the. Anything I have to do and do I really have to be the one to do it? So like this is something that I absolutely would’ve done manually before that Cowork just did for me. So I [00:35:50] have a, I’m doing an event in my school community, so I am having live speakers and I have placeholders on my calendar, so I could put placeholders on their [00:36:00] calendar of when they’re speaking, but it’s just a placeholder.

[00:36:03] Monica Froese: It doesn’t have the link. Yeah, because I have to create that still in school. It doesn’t have the description. All of that resides in [00:36:10] Airtable. Well, I don’t wanna be the one to create the, the events in the school community. Now, probably Claude in the browser extension could probably do that, but I’m [00:36:20] gonna have my admin do that part.

[00:36:21] Monica Froese: However, I don’t have, she has no look into my calendar to see when people are scheduled and all the information that matches. Um. [00:36:30] Like the workshop title is an Airtable, so I needed a doc to give her that mirrored those two together. So I just explained that to co-work. I’m like, well, this is in my calendar and this is an Airtable, [00:36:40] and I need a document that I can hand to Natalie to be able to create the events in school.

[00:36:44] Monica Froese: And it just created the doc for me. It just, it went to Airtable, found, I didn’t even have to tell it. What [00:36:50] base it figured it out. Pulled it, looked at my calendar. It’s like destiny’s talking and that it looked at found. Okay, Destiny’s talking at noon. Based on Airtable, here’s her topic, and then [00:37:00] put it in this nice document for me to hand over.

[00:37:02] Monica Froese: And it even listened to the point that I was like, I need to have the school link to update the calendar. And it said, well, once Natalie updates [00:37:10] this document, let me know and I can go plug it in to the calendar to update Destiny’s, um, invite. And I’m [00:37:20] like, okay, cool. And I did and I just let it do its thing and then the document was ready and I.

[00:37:25] Monica Froese: Gave it over to Natalie, I would’ve absolutely had Airtable and my calendar mirroring it, creating the [00:37:30] doc myself before. So it’s, it’s like, it’s literally having it do it for you. That’s the biggest difference.

[00:37:37] Ruth Poundwhite: Yes, yes. Thank you for that explanation. It’s [00:37:40] so. Helpful. I mean, even one thing that I just, because calendar, because of the school calendar, right?

[00:37:46] Ruth Poundwhite: It doesn’t sync from a Google calendar, so you do have to add those events, although hopefully we can [00:37:50] get cowork to do it. But in the human adding or copying over of events, there are always, there’s always human error, like, and it’s usually Maya. So now [00:38:00] I’ve got a recurring scheduled task. So this is something else that co-work can do.

[00:38:05] Ruth Poundwhite: You can schedule it as, but you have to have your computer on and, and cla open. So there’s [00:38:10] that. Um, so I now schedule it twice a month just to go through my school calendar and my Google calendar and make sure there’s no discrepancies and that it’s all correct and it’s just a really simple [00:38:20] task, but it.

[00:38:21] Ruth Poundwhite: The human error is the problem. So having the AI look at it is just like such a helpful solution for me, especially someone like me when I mentioned my brain [00:38:30] earlier, overwhelm. You know, it’s really, really helpful just to have that check. It’s just a simple thing, but it’s like, okay, what is it that [00:38:40] I’m butting up against?

[00:38:41] Ruth Poundwhite: And that keeps coming up as a, an issue. Okay, let, let’s see if a cowork can help with that.

[00:38:46] Kate Kordsmeier: I did just realize this morning, and I feel like this was the second [00:38:50] morning in a row, so I’m like, maybe this is one of the new releases. Like I have a morning briefing that I get every morning that Cowork does for me.

[00:38:57] Kate Kordsmeier: And like you said in the past, and maybe this [00:39:00] is just some weird glitch, I don’t know, but in the past you’ve had to have your computer on and. Awake so that it can do the, the stuff. And this morning I [00:39:10] did not have my computer opened until like 10 in the morning and I opened it up and all of the scheduled tasks were done.

[00:39:16] Kate Kordsmeier: And I was like, wait, how did this [00:39:20] happen? And it, they were done perfectly. There were no mistakes. Like I just, so now I’m like, maybe they’re finally, they figured out how to do this without having to have your computer on. ’cause [00:39:30] that was a big limitation. I feel like so far, even though. Okay, now, you know, in the past I would come down, I’d open my laptop and then I’d make my coffee and do my like morning [00:39:40] routine.

[00:39:40] Kate Kordsmeier: By the time I was done, it would be ready, but now it’s just ready. So we’ll see if it sticks.

[00:39:47] Ruth Poundwhite: That would

[00:39:47] Jodi Bourne: be very exciting. That’s a great, that’s great. I didn’t know, [00:39:50] I haven’t seen that happen yet. Have y’all tried with your phone, your iPhone, to with the dispatch? Have y’all tried that yet?

[00:39:57] Monica Froese: No, ’cause I haven’t had my [00:40:00] computer turned because I didn’t in order.

[00:40:01] Monica Froese: So dispatch is, you basically prompt it from the Claude app to deploy a task through cowork. But like we were saying, so if [00:40:10] this has changed and your computer doesn’t need to be on, you could be out at the grocery store being like, oh, you know, I really need that Airtable updated for my meeting and I don’t have time.

[00:40:18] Monica Froese: You would just tell through your [00:40:20] phone and it’ll command your computer to do it, which is. I’ve not tried it yet, but if, if we don’t have to have our computers on, I do think that’s a game, a game changer.

[00:40:29] Kate Kordsmeier: Yeah.

[00:40:29] Monica Froese: [00:40:30] Because I work a lot off my laptop and I’m not letting my laptop sit on 24 7 because it’ll burn it out.

[00:40:35] Kate Kordsmeier: Yeah. And a lot of people have been saying like they’re doing the Mac [00:40:40] mini thing so that they always have something on, and maybe this is like just my limited knowledge, but. We’ve been talking a lot about this in our mastermind. I have a [00:40:50] desktop, Mac and I have a MacBook Pro laptop. I work mostly from my laptop these days, but um, if I switch to my [00:41:00] desktop, even if I save everything to the cloud.

[00:41:03] Kate Kordsmeier: You can’t have the same scheduled task, like you would have to recreate all of your scheduled tasks on [00:41:10] both devices and then it, that wouldn’t really actually make sense because then both devices would be running them at the same time and you’d have duplicates and it would waste all your tokens and all of that.

[00:41:19] Kate Kordsmeier: [00:41:20] So, um, I had like, that’s been another limitation where it’s like. Really, all of my cowork stuff is on my laptop. So when I’m on my desktop, I don’t have like [00:41:30] anything scheduled, anything new that I wanted to do, like in the moment or just like clean up my desktop or reorganize Canva for me or whatever.

[00:41:37] Kate Kordsmeier: Like, yeah, I can do that on any device, but [00:41:40] anything that’s more of that repeatable scheduled task, I haven’t been able to figure out how to, I don’t think it’s possible.

[00:41:48] Jodi Bourne: It’s

[00:41:48] Kate Kordsmeier: possible.

[00:41:49] Jodi Bourne: I figured

[00:41:49] Kate Kordsmeier: [00:41:50] it’s

[00:41:50] Jodi Bourne: so if you, because I, I was doing the same thing, like I don’t want it to do it on both all the time or you know, all the time on everything.

[00:41:57] Jodi Bourne: So you can create two, you know, have you [00:42:00] choose the folder that it works in? Yeah. So when you, you can choose two, you can create two folders in your Google Drive or wherever. One is for your desktop, one is for your laptop. [00:42:10] And so the skills that you’re using on your desktop computer, you can use a different folder.

[00:42:17] Jodi Bourne: So, and then any skills that you want [00:42:20] on your desktop, you just duplicate ’em and put ’em in so you just duplicate specific file and put it in the new, um, mean folder. You see what I’m saying?

[00:42:29] Kate Kordsmeier: [00:42:30] Okay. You’re gonna have to show us this on the Thursday call because in theory I understand what you’re saying, but every time I do it in practice, it’s like it’s cowork [00:42:40] says, I don’t have that.

[00:42:41] Kate Kordsmeier: Knowledge or like I always run into an issue

[00:42:44] Monica Froese: if I’m a betting person.

[00:42:45] Jodi Bourne: Well, I’ll be fair just to say I have not tried it yet, but it was telling me I [00:42:50] was asking it how to do it and it showed me, and so I organi started organizing some folders, but I haven’t actually put it on my desktop yet.

[00:42:58] Monica Froese: I, I honestly think it’s such [00:43:00] a pain point that they’re going to fix it.

[00:43:02] Monica Froese: They’ll

[00:43:02] Kate Kordsmeier: figure it out.

[00:43:02] Monica Froese: Yeah. So I’m not even gonna worry to try to figure it out. I’m just gonna keep my scheduled task on my laptop until

[00:43:08] Kate Kordsmeier: Yeah,

[00:43:08] Monica Froese: it will all sink. [00:43:10] And I mean, that’s

[00:43:10] Kate Kordsmeier: kind of where I’ve gotten to. Also,

[00:43:12] Monica Froese: I, I didn’t even install, um, Claude Cowork on my iMac for that reason. ’cause I’m like, honestly, if I’m gonna do something in Cowork, I’m just gonna keep it on the same [00:43:20] device right now.

[00:43:20] Monica Froese: And I only use like the web version on my iMac when I’m in my office.

[00:43:26] Ruth Poundwhite: So I just wanna point, oh, sorry.

[00:43:28] Kate Kordsmeier: No, go ahead Ruth.

[00:43:29] Ruth Poundwhite: I was [00:43:30] gonna sort of go on a slight tangent and just say the, this is how we figure stuff out. Like in real time, we don’t know how everything works and everything is changing all the time.

[00:43:39] Ruth Poundwhite: Having a group of [00:43:40] people that you can actually get together and talk about this stuff with is very helpful. Like one of you will be like, you know, like Destiny, you are creating the pages. Monica, you’ve been creating all these pages. [00:43:50] Jody, you’ve been doing all the SEO. Kate’s got all the. The morning briefing and the, and then we all come together and we share like little examples and then we build our knowledge this way.

[00:43:59] Ruth Poundwhite: Um, [00:44:00] it’s so helpful to just get together with people who are wanting to learn as well and just do it together and share what comes up.

[00:44:08] Jodi Bourne: There’s a Claude group on [00:44:10] Facebook that has been, I. It’s pretty, it’s a little bit lower. And brand new users, I’m sorry, destiny, I know you’re trying to say something, but, uh, just, you know, to let people know there’s a, a [00:44:20] really pretty good Claude group and it looks like it’s sponsored by Claude.

[00:44:23] Jodi Bourne: Um, so that it’s, you know, good for, for newbies.

[00:44:27] Ruth Poundwhite: Yes. Thanks for sharing that. Destiny, do you wanna share [00:44:30] something?

[00:44:30] Destini Copp: Well, Jody, first of all, you’ll have to give us that link ’cause I definitely wanna check it out. One thing that I just wanna mention really quickly, Ruth, is a kind of another game changer that’s happened to me in the past few [00:44:40] weeks is, um, earlier, I think it was, uh, last week, I can’t remember when it was, but the days are kind of swishing together.

[00:44:48] Destini Copp: I had to create [00:44:50] three presentations for events that I was speaking in, and I only had like a very, very limited time to do ’em. And I’m like, how am I getting this done? So I went to Claude and I [00:45:00] was like, okay, I need to get all three of these done. Here’s what I’m talking about. I need you to help me get these done very quickly.

[00:45:06] Destini Copp: So we started working on the first presentation, and then I was like, [00:45:10] okay. What tool out there can I put this into to have it create the presentation like really fast for me And it had all of my details, [00:45:20] um, you know, all of my branding and all that good stuff. And it told me to go to the Gamma app. So I used the Gamma app and I basically fed it everything that Claude gave me.

[00:45:29] Destini Copp: And it [00:45:30] built this presentation in just like literally a couple minutes. And

[00:45:34] Kate Kordsmeier: it’s good you shared it with us in our chat and we were all like, wait, what is this? So [00:45:40] [00:45:40] Jodi Bourne: better than Nana Banana was or is that, was it called?

[00:45:44] Destini Copp: Yeah. I couldn’t believe what it did. It did the speaker notes, it did everything and it sounded like me and it looked, you [00:45:50] know, it was like fully branded and everything.

[00:45:52] Destini Copp: And I’m like, okay, this is another game changer. And that app also does AI images, so I had it create some for our Eco [00:46:00] Creative Summit that we’re doing. Uh, in April in hobby school and it created some really good images and I’ve had troubles finding an AI that [00:46:10] could do really good images for our events.

[00:46:12] Destini Copp: So I just wanted to throw that out there if anybody needed help in that area, it that’s something else that has [00:46:20] been a game changer that Claude helped, helped me with recently.

[00:46:23] Monica Froese: And because Destiny shared that I, this. Past weekend, I had to get two big, big [00:46:30] presentations done as well. And so I got Gamma like she suggested.

[00:46:35] Monica Froese: I was just like destiny blown away. But then the thing that [00:46:40] really, so I spend. A lot of time on my, on my speaking notes, like I, I follow, I will go off script. I’m pretty good at going off script when I’m presenting live, but my speaker notes are [00:46:50] pretty dialed in with my inflection and stuff, but I always had to write that manually.

[00:46:54] Monica Froese: I mean, AI to really get my inflection as a human is really difficult. So I got the slide deck [00:47:00] done and then I went to Claude and I said, here’s like. I would say like a dozen of my trainings over the last year, and I told it I want you to capture like the phrases I use, the [00:47:10] stories I tell, um, you know, all of that.

[00:47:13] Monica Froese: And I asked it to create a skill and then I asked it to write my speaking notes. I just presented one of them yesterday live. [00:47:20] It was one of my best live pres presentations ever, and I literally read my notes and it sounded just like me and I, I just, it, [00:47:30] I can’t even, I don’t even know how we, how we functioned without this before.

[00:47:34] Kate Kordsmeier: We were very burnt out and exhausted and tired, exhausted, overwhelmed.

[00:47:38] Jodi Bourne: Now I’m just exhausted from [00:47:40] playing with cowork every day.

[00:47:41] Kate Kordsmeier: Well, right, exactly. Now I can’t, I’m staying up way too late because I’m like, what else can I do?

[00:47:45] Jodi Bourne: Yeah.

[00:47:46] Kate Kordsmeier: But I think Ruth, like you said this at the beginning and I just, I’ve [00:47:50] been getting so many comments, um, from my own clients too.

[00:47:52] Kate Kordsmeier: Where are you learning this? How are you like figuring this out? And I really feel like. Those two things. One is I am [00:48:00] in there playing. I am in there like I have fun playing and figuring out what it can do. I’ve watched a gillion YouTube videos about [00:48:10] stuff. I’m testing different things out, but like it’s not even watching the videos, it’s just getting in there and playing around, and I feel like a lot of people are like, oh, I’ll [00:48:20] learn it first and then I’ll try to figure it out.

[00:48:22] Kate Kordsmeier: It’s like, no, you figure it out by just. Doing it as

[00:48:25] Monica Froese: you go

[00:48:26] Kate Kordsmeier: and then having a group that you can go, wait, has anybody figured [00:48:30] out how to do this? Or like, oh my God, did you guys know it could build a sales page for you in five minutes? Like, and it looks amazing here. Here’s how to do it. So like, get yourself a group and then just [00:48:40] get yourself a paid account.

[00:48:41] Kate Kordsmeier: It will be the best $20 you ever spend in your life. And, um, get in there and just have fun.

[00:48:47] Monica Froese: And I never once. [00:48:50] Not even once considered in all the things I, I mean, chat, GBT was like so integrated into my life. I don’t, I mean like one time it forgot me, it had a glitch and I was, I bugged out, my [00:49:00] daughter was a little concerned about me and I’m like, I don’t know what to do with myself.

[00:49:02] Monica Froese: It has my whole life in there. And I never upgraded off the $20 plan. And I think most of us in the group within like a week [00:49:10] of using Claude, went right to the a hundred dollars max plan because it is saving me so much time. Like we used, I used to joke that. Uh, I had a $20 assistant in chat, GPT that, [00:49:20] you know, like saved me a full-time salary.

[00:49:21] Monica Froese: I would argue that the a hundred dollars a month though is like saving like five full-time salaries. It is incredible that things like, [00:49:30] honestly what I used to pay, almost everything I used to pay for. Claude now does and I, I and, and I guess that’s a whole different conversation about the taking away [00:49:40] jobs.

[00:49:40] Monica Froese: But actually I would like to say this, it just goes to show of like upleveling your skills, how important that is going to be in this booming era of [00:49:50] ai.

[00:49:50] Ruth Poundwhite: I agree. Unfortunately, because of time, I’m gonna have to wrap us up there. One thing that we did not get to talk about, I’m wondering if it might be worth doing a follow up sometime, is [00:50:00] how this is changing our offers and I think.

[00:50:03] Ruth Poundwhite: Just to summarize that before we wrap up, we are definitely all considering how AI can enhance our [00:50:10] offers and help people use what we do. I, for one, am still using custom GPTs. I’m not getting rid of those. I have downgraded my chat. GPT plan, though [00:50:20] there is, you still have to have a paid plan to host the custom GBTs, but I’ve downgraded it so I’m spending less money on chat GT like the

[00:50:26] Kate Kordsmeier: $8 a month plans.

[00:50:28] Kate Kordsmeier: Okay, I need to do that.

[00:50:29] Ruth Poundwhite: [00:50:30] Um, but definitely skills are things that we can probably consider adding to some of our offers if it fits. I’m not planning to do that for my membership, but I would definitely do it for one-off [00:50:40] offers. But yeah, something for a future conversation maybe. But as you can see, we’re all playing with it.

[00:50:46] Ruth Poundwhite: Things are changing very fast. There is no keeping up with it. If it can [00:50:50] save you some time and energy on something that takes up time and energy, then that is a win. So I hope that you have found this helpful. I’m gonna put everyone’s links in the [00:51:00] show notes, um, and. Hopefully get those links to those other, uh, resources that we mentioned as well.

[00:51:06] Ruth Poundwhite: Anyway, thank you so much and I’m sorry to have such an abrupt end [00:51:10] to this, but you’ve all been amazing and let’s hope this is even still relevant by the time, like who knows what will have changed by the time this goes out in

[00:51:16] Monica Froese: like 10 days. Thank you everyone.

[00:51:19] Ruth Poundwhite: [00:51:20] Thank you so much for listening to another episode of Soulful Sales.

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